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Betelgeuse lu_zero dev-zero jokey by verne.freenode.net [2009/01/22 10:12:33] @ fmccor joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 10:12:33] @ Zorry joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 10:12:33] @ fmccor|home joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 10:12:33] @ MinnieBannister joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 10:12:33] @ leio joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 10:13:14] @ Log closed by Willikins (idle since Thu Jan 22 10:12:33 +0000 2009) [2009/01/22 11:31:07] @ Log started by Willikins [2009/01/22 11:31:07] @ hkBst joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 11:40:04] @ Log closed by Willikins (idle since Thu Jan 22 11:31:07 +0000 2009) [2009/01/22 13:49:24] @ Log started by Willikins [2009/01/22 13:49:24] @ mpagano joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 13:52:39] @ Log closed by Willikins (idle since Thu Jan 22 13:49:24 +0000 2009) [2009/01/22 15:00:00] @ Log started by Willikins [2009/01/22 15:00:00] @ FuzzyRay joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 15:04:43] @ Log closed by Willikins (idle since Thu Jan 22 15:00:00 +0000 2009) [2009/01/22 16:25:13] @ Log started by Willikins [2009/01/22 16:25:13] @ billie joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 16:30:14] @ Log closed by Willikins (idle since Thu Jan 22 16:25:13 +0000 2009) [2009/01/22 16:31:29] @ Log started by Willikins [2009/01/22 16:31:29] @ darkside_ joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 16:33:29] @ dertobi123 joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 16:33:29] @ Mode +o dertobi123 by ChanServ [2009/01/22 16:36:24] @ Log closed by Willikins (idle since Thu Jan 22 16:33:29 +0000 2009) [2009/01/22 16:55:28] @ Log started by Willikins [2009/01/22 16:55:28] @ Ron_157 joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 16:56:52] i'd appreciate the other council folks saying something on the lists before the meeting [2009/01/22 16:58:13] @ dberkholz set topic "Next meeting: 2000 UTC, 22 Jan || Agenda: http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_c34ffd4c11e2aac054312b24b8fb04e5.xml" [2009/01/22 17:07:58] @ Log closed by Willikins (idle since Thu Jan 22 16:58:13 +0000 2009) [2009/01/22 17:32:36] @ Log started by Willikins [2009/01/22 17:32:36] @ Halcy0n joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 17:32:36] @ Mode +o Halcy0n by ChanServ [2009/01/22 17:37:41] I will be here for the meeting, but I may be running a few minutes late. 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[2009/01/22 19:52:11] (like the rh and canonical ones) [2009/01/22 19:52:19] @ Quit: billie: Remote closed the connection [2009/01/22 19:53:19] @ Log closed by Willikins (idle since Thu Jan 22 19:52:19 +0000 2009) [2009/01/22 19:54:05] @ Log started by Willikins [2009/01/22 19:54:05] * dertobi123 not [2009/01/22 19:54:08] nope [2009/01/22 19:54:13] lu_zero: who did contact you? [2009/01/22 19:54:50] maybe i should make a gentoo certification and sell it to people. =) [2009/01/22 19:55:12] heh [2009/01/22 19:55:34] well, we did a quiz on gentoo.de several times ... that's some kind of certification :P [2009/01/22 19:56:44] dertobi123 people I know that were using gentoo extensively [2009/01/22 19:57:05] and considered putting it as requirement [2009/01/22 19:57:42] * tanderson wanders in and sits down [2009/01/22 19:58:26] mh, i could poke some lpi people ;) [2009/01/22 19:59:30] maybe we could think something so we could have an interesting source of income and advertisment [2009/01/22 19:59:56] @ billie joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 20:00:01] *shrugs* [2009/01/22 20:00:10] mail -project and see what other people think [2009/01/22 20:00:22] ok, 2000 [2009/01/22 20:00:32] who's here? [2009/01/22 20:00:49] <- [2009/01/22 20:00:53] <- [2009/01/22 20:00:54] obviously [2009/01/22 20:01:01] dertobi123 hmm [2009/01/22 20:01:03] project [2009/01/22 20:01:22] * lu_zero is afraid to open that maildir [2009/01/22 20:01:27] @ Quit: billie: Remote closed the connection [2009/01/22 20:01:52] project is cool [2009/01/22 20:01:59] @ billie joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 20:02:17] anyone know what's up with cardoe this meeting? [2009/01/22 20:02:31] dev-zero, Betelgeuse, Halcy0n -- check in please [2009/01/22 20:02:38] @ Quit: billie: Remote closed the connection [2009/01/22 20:02:38] I am here (mostly). We had a power outage, so I'm bringing up my main desktop. [2009/01/22 20:02:50] \o/ [2009/01/22 20:03:00] @ billie joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 20:03:13] cardoe or flameeyes? [2009/01/22 20:03:20] dberkholz: hee [2009/01/22 20:03:57] @ Quit: billie: Remote closed the connection [2009/01/22 20:04:04] @ billie joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 20:04:24] well, flameeyes didn't even know there was a council meeting so i'm presuming he wasn't asked to proxy for it [2009/01/22 20:04:40] i know cardoe also asked dang to proxy at least once [2009/01/22 20:05:31] @ Quit: billie: Remote closed the connection [2009/01/22 20:05:32] @ billie joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 20:05:43] dang also heard no proxy request [2009/01/22 20:06:00] well, let's get rolling [2009/01/22 20:06:18] @ Quit: billie: Remote closed the connection [2009/01/22 20:06:23] @ billie joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 20:06:37] @ Quit: billie: Remote closed the connection [2009/01/22 20:06:44] * fmccor wonders if there's any way to get billie to stay or to go. [2009/01/22 20:06:45] @ billie joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 20:06:55] cardoe's got a .away saying he has little internet access [2009/01/22 20:07:11] maybe timesavings again [2009/01/22 20:07:24] fmccor: +b ;-) [2009/01/22 20:07:32] ok -- wrt the council size, what are council members' opinions? [2009/01/22 20:07:53] keep as is or let it change somehow? [2009/01/22 20:08:08] well, mine is that there should be a minimum of 3 and a maximum of 7 [2009/01/22 20:08:30] and we shall try to reach 7 but not enforce it [2009/01/22 20:08:34] I have nothing against adding an option to vote for a smaller council. Not really sure how that voting works though. [2009/01/22 20:09:12] as is, if it needs to changed i'd like to see at least 5 council members [2009/01/22 20:09:14] +be [2009/01/22 20:09:24] @ Quit: billie: Remote closed the connection [2009/01/22 20:09:44] w [2009/01/22 20:09:46] but if we decide to do staggered votes, the probability of having too less "worthy" candidates decreases [2009/01/22 20:09:55] i think we should also let it change, from 1-7 [2009/01/22 20:10:13] I'd keep 5+ [2009/01/22 20:10:25] upper limit to make it small enough to be effective, lower limit to let devs decide on what kind of leadership they want [2009/01/22 20:11:09] if you want them to decide what leadership they want you don't set a lower limit [2009/01/22 20:11:28] but in the end they voted once for a council and should therefore get a council and not a single person [2009/01/22 20:11:29] dev-zero I guess he was referring to the 1-7 range [2009/01/22 20:11:37] @ billie joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 20:12:28] dev-zero: agreed, i see no reason nor request nor $whatever to change our leadership model [2009/01/22 20:12:39] Halcy0n: any opinion on whether the council size should be variable, and if so, what ranges? [2009/01/22 20:13:13] I don't see a reason to make it variable, and I think it would just complicate things. If the size should change, I think it should be static. [2009/01/22 20:13:26] (i'm completely back now, I was just catching up) [2009/01/22 20:14:19] I guess I'm not seeing the reason for changing it, or a big request to change the size of the council. [2009/01/22 20:14:33] fully ack [2009/01/22 20:15:19] well, each additional person makes coming to a decision about anything more difficult [2009/01/22 20:15:35] the reason why this was brought up was that since we now have to _reopen_nominations person determining the allowed candidates we might get to the point where we have too less candidates [2009/01/22 20:15:42] was it that difficult in the past to get some decisions? [2009/01/22 20:16:01] when a vote takes 2 weeks, that's way too long. [2009/01/22 20:16:24] agreed [2009/01/22 20:16:27] when it takes forever to get everyone to post their thoughts on a mailing list, it cripples progress [2009/01/22 20:16:32] dberkholz: then I'd say we should have people that can be involved and make decisions faster. [2009/01/22 20:17:36] even on irc. we've got 7 people, and waiting for everyone to speak up on an issue means the rest of us are just wasting time [2009/01/22 20:17:55] dberkholz: well, democracy does take it's time ... if we *need* to make quick decision i'm very confident that we are able to make quick decisions [2009/01/22 20:18:07] dberkholz: listening to other's people opinion is not wasting time [2009/01/22 20:18:23] dev-zero: he means it takes some people 5 minutes to finally respond to something. [2009/01/22 20:18:26] dev-zero: it is when they aren't even at the computer, and you're waiting for them to look at the screen again [2009/01/22 20:19:10] ok, then you've lost me [2009/01/22 20:19:11] if 6 of us are waiting 5 minutes for the 7th person to speak up, that's 30 minutes (6*5) that just got wasted [2009/01/22 20:19:21] I don't see those people around here [2009/01/22 20:19:30] how long does it take us to do attendance at the beginning of a meeting? [2009/01/22 20:19:34] that should literally take 30 seconds [2009/01/22 20:19:37] 3 minutes [2009/01/22 20:19:51] dberkholz: then lets say so [2009/01/22 20:19:53] dberkholz: then the solution would be to move to an ansynchronous medium like email ... [2009/01/22 20:20:05] but still then you won't come to quicker decisions [2009/01/22 20:20:06] That makes it take even more time. We want to streamline. [2009/01/22 20:20:09] the solution would be for people to actually devote their time when we've got a meeting [2009/01/22 20:20:27] *sigh*, think of all the time that's being wasted right now over this discussion [2009/01/22 20:20:27] and who of us isn't doing this? [2009/01/22 20:20:36] we get people together at the same time because we're trying to make progress faster, not sit here [2009/01/22 20:21:02] tanderson: right, this discussion is a plain waste of time [2009/01/22 20:21:10] dberkholz: yeah, so lets do it and stop talk talking about it [2009/01/22 20:21:40] Then no one get pissed when one of us points out that we are completely waiting on you to respond. [2009/01/22 20:21:45] ok, we'll just stop waiting for people's responses during meetings from now on and move ahead [2009/01/22 20:21:59] good [2009/01/22 20:22:53] Moving this along, I like the idea of longer terms and staggered elections. I think a 2 year term and having elections every year is a great idea. [2009/01/22 20:23:01] dito [2009/01/22 20:23:12] i thought solar made a good point [2009/01/22 20:23:26] or just when it's needed and to encourage people to stay at least a half a year [2009/01/22 20:23:47] staggered terms++, i still think 2 year terms are way too long seeing how many council members we loose within a one year term [2009/01/22 20:24:04] 2 years is too long, think about this year alone. [2009/01/22 20:24:11] right, dertobi123 [2009/01/22 20:24:30] when we're always replacing a couple of people, doesn't that mean the continuity of the others becomes that much more important? [2009/01/22 20:24:38] yes [2009/01/22 20:25:03] on staggered terms, the 2 years is just a maximum time until someone has to take a revote [2009/01/22 20:25:46] i'm really on the fence about this. [2009/01/22 20:25:52] and yes, I think people will still take matters serious enough to not just quit just when they're tired about it [2009/01/22 20:26:00] another point. i think 2 year terms might scare off people from even running for council. not sure if that is good or bad [2009/01/22 20:26:07] I see the arguments for both sides as well. [2009/01/22 20:26:13] darkside_: that might be a good thing actually. [2009/01/22 20:26:42] darkside_: since it would mean that people that actually go through with it are interested in doing the job. [2009/01/22 20:27:09] perhaps, or you lose valuable input from "good people that don't commit to it" [2009/01/22 20:27:25] * darkside_ shrugs and sits back down [2009/01/22 20:27:31] darkside_ input? [2009/01/22 20:27:32] darkside_: just because they are not on the council doesn't mean they can't give their input. [2009/01/22 20:27:33] darkside_: if they're good people they'd find a way to bring themselves in [2009/01/22 20:27:41] re Halcy0n, look at you talking now. =) [2009/01/22 20:27:57] (you = darkside_ ) [2009/01/22 20:28:08] since i'm not convinced there are definite benefits to changing, i'd rather leave things the way they are (pending further convincing, of course) [2009/01/22 20:28:35] i believe solar's argument that continuity is provided by good people getting re-elected [2009/01/22 20:28:46] ack [2009/01/22 20:28:57] that's always been a case in the past and will be in the future [2009/01/22 20:29:12] most people who stand for reelection end up getting reelected [2009/01/22 20:29:45] not like it's a whole new council every term, and if that did happen it'd indicate something being severely wrong anyway [2009/01/22 20:30:25] well, that's true. Until a council member didn't screw up completely, the probability is high he gets reelected [2009/01/22 20:31:29] i think the best point about a longer term is Halcy0n's. 2 years is an awfully long time in gentoo, and i think it would make people really think about the commitment [2009/01/22 20:32:08] no, I don't think that it would [2009/01/22 20:32:41] ok [2009/01/22 20:32:42] I'm don't feel strongly either way right now, and it doesn't seem that others do either. I think this should be tabled until it does become an issue. [2009/01/22 20:32:55] good [2009/01/22 20:32:58] maybe ... but i do expect people to think about a one year commitment, too - and even that didn't work in 2-3 of 7 cases in the past [2009/01/22 20:32:59] I think the oftener the gentoo community gets to pick their council members the better [2009/01/22 20:33:47] ok. seems like there's not a whole lot of force for change, as Halcy0n says, so let's move on [2009/01/22 20:34:03] that's it for the council meta blah [2009/01/22 20:34:24] anyone want to say something about that PMS bug that they didn't have time to get onto the lists? [2009/01/22 20:34:48] yes, I don't want prep* in the PMS [2009/01/22 20:35:09] i'd like the council to make an executive decision to remove prep* from the tree and have done with it [2009/01/22 20:35:17] i left a comment on the bug asking whether vapier & ciaranm were going to reach agreement [2009/01/22 20:35:41] we could agree on some horribly convoluted weasel wording that essentially allows prep* to do absolutely anything [2009/01/22 20:35:51] but that's really not something i'd like to see in a specification [2009/01/22 20:35:55] yeah, let's cross beams [2009/01/22 20:36:31] from my reading, it seems like having a way to tell the PM to compress or not compress docs can be useful [2009/01/22 20:36:47] dberkholz: it's pointless [2009/01/22 20:36:58] dberkholz: as far as I remember vapier hasn't commented at all since I pointed out that prepalldocs /did/ change behaviour between portage versions. [2009/01/22 20:37:03] I'd say that people thinking that prepalldocs is something useful should write a proper spec for a function/way it should work and then have it in a future eapi [2009/01/22 20:37:18] anyone who cares whether the docs get compressed only cares because it's another pointless option they can change in their config [2009/01/22 20:37:31] it has no practical effect, beyond giving users the illusion of choice [2009/01/22 20:38:29] so the assertion is that packages won't care about the compression status of non-html things in their doc directory [2009/01/22 20:38:43] if packages care about the compression status, they can't use prepalldocs anyway [2009/01/22 20:38:51] because prepalldocs can do undefined things [2009/01/22 20:39:00] as in? [2009/01/22 20:39:13] lu_zero: check dleverton's most recent description of its behaviour [2009/01/22 20:39:30] my understanding is that you're saying the PM should handle compression on the backend and the EAPI will not provide for any way to control what it does [2009/01/22 20:39:44] depending upon portage version and user config, prepalldocs can make arbitrary changes or no changes to arbitrary files, and it can do it at a later stage than when it's called [2009/01/22 20:39:55] dberkholz: i'm saying the package manager shouldn't compress anything [2009/01/22 20:40:09] ok, so how should compression happen? [2009/01/22 20:40:20] if an ebuild genuinely needs something compressed, it should explicitly compress it in whichever way it needs it [2009/01/22 20:40:38] @ Arfrever joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 20:40:47] as in bzip2 doc/* ? [2009/01/22 20:40:58] except that bzip2ing docs is by and large pointless [2009/01/22 20:41:21] @ Quit: tomaw: Remote closed the connection [2009/01/22 20:41:42] depending on what is in docs... [2009/01/22 20:41:46] anyway [2009/01/22 20:41:50] i've got half a gig of crap in my doc directory [2009/01/22 20:41:53] if docs are huge, they can be made optional [2009/01/22 20:42:08] I guess I don't really understand the point to compressing the documents either, and if it should happen, it seems like something the package manager should just do automatically if the user asks for it. [2009/01/22 20:42:08] dberkholz: and compression makes no practical difference to that [2009/01/22 20:42:27] ... [2009/01/22 20:42:27] compressing a 1KByte file gives you a file that takes up the same amount of real disk space [2009/01/22 20:42:34] anyway [2009/01/22 20:42:37] if you care about space at all, just remove the docs entirely [2009/01/22 20:42:55] the issue is about having prepalldocs exposed to ebuilds [2009/01/22 20:42:55] actually, if you care about space at all, focus on something more useful [2009/01/22 20:43:12] or having a way to say "do not compress/compress" [2009/01/22 20:43:13] ? [2009/01/22 20:43:45] lu_zero: the issue is about properly documenting it [2009/01/22 20:43:50] lu_zero: well, then write a function "docdocs" which does that in a clear and documented way [2009/01/22 20:43:53] the issue is whether the council's prepared to mandate "nuke all prep* calls from the tree and then pretend it never existed" [2009/01/22 20:44:25] or whether we have to stick with weasel wording that says "prepalldocs can do anything it wants to, or nothing at all" [2009/01/22 20:44:40] "but maybe does compress some files" [2009/01/22 20:44:49] dertobi123: not that simple [2009/01/22 20:44:51] heh [2009/01/22 20:44:57] that's not even what it does when it works [2009/01/22 20:45:11] it really is "anything it wants to" [2009/01/22 20:45:38] so lets nuke it [2009/01/22 20:45:52] dev-zero that isn't an answer to my question, ciaranm's is better =P [2009/01/22 20:45:56] @ tomaw joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 20:46:02] This came up rather late for me to give any useful feedback. I'm not seeing the great advantage to using it though. [2009/01/22 20:46:12] i'm reading through the bug again [2009/01/22 20:46:26] so far i've made it to comment #27 [2009/01/22 20:46:58] dberkholz: comment #42 is the useful one [2009/01/22 20:47:24] well, let's lay out some possible options [2009/01/22 20:47:41] * lu_zero is grepping the tree out of curiosity [2009/01/22 20:47:52] we could get rid of it, and then docs would be compressed or not by the PM, and we don't know if anything breaks till we get bugs [2009/01/22 20:47:57] lu_zero: heh ... /me too ... damn slow sata-drives :( [2009/01/22 20:47:59] lu_zero: there are a lot of ebuilds using prepalldocs [2009/01/22 20:48:10] dberkholz: no, then docs would not be compressed at all except where ebuilds say to do so [2009/01/22 20:48:13] we could keep it in EAPI=0 and drop it in EAPI=3 or whatever [2009/01/22 20:48:20] dberkholz: the package manager can't safely compress things unless it's told to [2009/01/22 20:48:33] dev-zero: well ... not even a more than handful of packages [2009/01/22 20:49:03] -a [2009/01/22 20:49:07] dev-zero I was more interested on who is using it [2009/01/22 20:49:55] ok, so the consequence of option 1 is that we use extra space. right now we don't really know how much or which packages are affected, and why either of those matter [2009/01/22 20:50:18] fwiw, prepalldocs is not on devmanual.g.o according to google and at least i do not know how/why to use it [2009/01/22 20:50:48] darkside_: none of the prep functions are on there. [2009/01/22 20:50:54] from what I see it should force docs to be compressed [2009/01/22 20:51:03] or at least comments say that [2009/01/22 20:51:24] lu_zero: except that compression might be a no-op [2009/01/22 20:51:32] Betelgeuse: i don't think prep*() is on the dev quizzies either, right? [2009/01/22 20:51:34] lu_zero: also, you have to check both stable and scm portage [2009/01/22 20:51:45] lu_zero: because it does different things in each [2009/01/22 20:51:49] darkside_: It's not and has never been asked in reviews either. [2009/01/22 20:51:50] ciaranm dual xor is still encryption [2009/01/22 20:52:07] Ideally it would not show up in public APIs either. [2009/01/22 20:52:28] If people really need something let's get a new EAPI with it. [2009/01/22 20:52:37] ciaranm I think the prep stuff should stay private [2009/01/22 20:52:54] unfortunately portage doesn't split private and public stuff up too well [2009/01/22 20:53:06] so it's not always obvious which is which, and some people assume that if it's there it's ok to use it [2009/01/22 20:53:39] nothing that cannot be addressed [2009/01/22 20:53:40] still [2009/01/22 20:53:51] i don't think we're going to get this figured out in the next 7 minutes [2009/01/22 20:54:06] you could go with the "nuke prep* and pretend it didn't ever exist" solution right now! [2009/01/22 20:54:22] ciaranm too easy =P [2009/01/22 20:54:30] here's what i want to understand. what concrete benefits do we get from prepalldocs? [2009/01/22 20:54:39] *cough* absolutely none *cough* [2009/01/22 20:54:44] if you install every package that runs it, how much space do you save? [2009/01/22 20:54:48] dberkholz I wanted to know that from people using it [2009/01/22 20:55:08] is the other option adding a bunch of code to run dodoc 80 times? [2009/01/22 20:55:28] the other option is to just do nothing [2009/01/22 20:55:42] there's no guarantee that prepalldocs isn't a no-op anyway [2009/01/22 20:55:55] dberkholz: the other option is to remove any files installed by the build system of a package and reinstall them using dodoc [2009/01/22 20:55:57] ciaranm no-op isn't a problem [2009/01/22 20:56:22] ciaranm: I think dberkholz meant if people want to install compressed docs [2009/01/22 20:56:23] ulm doesn't sound that nice [2009/01/22 20:56:24] if you *need* compression, you can't rely upon dodoc either [2009/01/22 20:56:30] dodoc isn't guaranteed to compress [2009/01/22 20:57:00] the only thing you gain by doing what ulm said is using the user's choice of compression, and that should never have been given to the user as a choice to begin with [2009/01/22 20:57:04] but marks them as docs [2009/01/22 20:57:15] dodoc doesn't mark anything [2009/01/22 20:57:32] ciaranm if I make dodoc just a no-op [2009/01/22 20:57:39] dodoc can't be a no-op [2009/01/22 20:57:43] (say I do not care about docs) [2009/01/22 20:57:49] dodoc has to at least copy the docs [2009/01/22 20:57:52] rm is a compressor as well =P [2009/01/22 20:58:01] if you don't care about docs, you nuke them *after* src_install [2009/01/22 20:58:24] i'm fairly sure some ebuilds will break if you make dodoc use rm as compression [2009/01/22 20:58:35] because ebuilds assume that dodoc's side effects will happen [2009/01/22 20:58:51] ciaranm there are some? [2009/01/22 20:58:54] is that expected? [2009/01/22 20:59:07] dodoc makes directories [2009/01/22 20:59:16] we've gotta finish this up on the -dev list [2009/01/22 20:59:23] apparently so [2009/01/22 20:59:27] yep [2009/01/22 20:59:29] unfortunately it seems like, yes [2009/01/22 20:59:34] and I think it will lead to more interesting ends [2009/01/22 20:59:36] i'm going to post the things i think need to happen for us to make a decision [2009/01/22 20:59:44] after i eat lunch [2009/01/22 20:59:56] 2 min left [2009/01/22 21:00:02] is anyone going to update http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ ? [2009/01/22 21:00:10] dberkholz: sounds good. I'm going to do a little investigation to see what this actually does give us. [2009/01/22 21:00:31] ciaranm: I would love to, but I don't have the logs. If someone has them, I'll do it. [2009/01/22 21:00:44] http://dev.gentoo.org/~dberkholz/20080122_summary.txt is a very rough summary that i'm still working on [2009/01/22 21:01:01] with more my thoughts than an actual summary at the end [2009/01/22 21:01:09] Halcy0n: I have them for some meetings, not all [2009/01/22 21:01:10] Halcy0n: I can send the logs of this channel for the last couple years [2009/01/22 21:01:27] Are we missing any meetings from that page? Or did none of them happen? [2009/01/22 21:01:28] there are some other summaries in the same place too [2009/01/22 21:01:58] woops, s/2008/2009 up there [2009/01/22 21:02:30] Halcy0n: the one from December 11th is missing there [2009/01/22 21:02:50] Halcy0n: the only interesting one is http://dev.gentoo.org/~dberkholz/20081211-summary.txt [2009/01/22 21:03:15] i need to leave now [2009/01/22 21:03:55] meeting's over, continue prepalldocs talk on -dev and postpone bug checks to lists/next meeting [2009/01/22 21:03:57] bon appetit [2009/01/22 21:04:50] * dev-zero is heading to bed [2009/01/22 21:05:05] * dertobi123 too [2009/01/22 21:05:28] @ Quit: dertobi123: "nn" [2009/01/22 21:06:04] * lu_zero as well [2009/01/22 21:06:34] I sent my council logs to council@g.o [2009/01/22 21:06:35] @ darkside_ left channel #gentoo-council () [2009/01/22 21:07:49] @ Quit: Ron_157: "Leaving" [2009/01/22 21:11:51] @ ciaranm left channel #gentoo-council () [2009/01/22 21:17:09] @ Log closed by Willikins (idle since Thu Jan 22 21:11:51 +0000 2009) [2009/01/22 21:34:25] @ Log started by Willikins [2009/01/22 21:34:25] @ NeddySeagoon joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 21:37:21] @ Log closed by Willikins (idle since Thu Jan 22 21:34:25 +0000 2009) [2009/01/22 21:41:40] @ Log started by Willikins [2009/01/22 21:41:40] @ ch4os left channel #gentoo-council () [2009/01/22 21:42:29] @ Quit: billie: Remote closed the connection [2009/01/22 21:48:00] @ Log closed by Willikins (idle since Thu Jan 22 21:42:29 +0000 2009) [2009/01/22 21:54:00] @ Log started by Willikins [2009/01/22 21:54:00] @ billie joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 22:00:37] @ Log closed by Willikins (idle since Thu Jan 22 21:54:00 +0000 2009) [2009/01/22 22:08:50] @ Log started by Willikins [2009/01/22 22:08:50] @ Quit: billie: Remote closed the connection [2009/01/22 22:12:43] @ Log closed by Willikins (idle since Thu Jan 22 22:08:50 +0000 2009) [2009/01/22 22:13:06] @ Log started by Willikins [2009/01/22 22:13:06] @ billie joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 22:16:12] @ Log closed by Willikins (idle since Thu Jan 22 22:13:06 +0000 2009) [2009/01/22 22:26:37] @ Log started by Willikins [2009/01/22 22:26:37] @ Quit: hkBst: Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) [2009/01/22 22:29:59] @ Log closed by Willikins (idle since Thu Jan 22 22:26:37 +0000 2009) [2009/01/22 23:05:31] @ Log started by Willikins [2009/01/22 23:05:31] @ Quit: billie: Remote closed the connection [2009/01/22 23:09:46] @ Log closed by Willikins (idle since Thu Jan 22 23:05:31 +0000 2009) [2009/01/22 23:09:56] @ Log started by Willikins [2009/01/22 23:09:56] @ billie joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 23:12:40] @ Log closed by Willikins (idle since Thu Jan 22 23:09:56 +0000 2009) [2009/01/22 23:12:40] @ Log started by Willikins [2009/01/22 23:12:40] @ Quit: FuzzyRay: Remote closed the connection [2009/01/22 23:13:58] @ Log closed by Willikins (idle since Thu Jan 22 23:12:40 +0000 2009) [2009/01/22 23:19:51] @ Log started by Willikins [2009/01/22 23:19:51] @ Quit: billie: Remote closed the connection [2009/01/22 23:25:49] @ Log closed by Willikins (idle since Thu Jan 22 23:19:51 +0000 2009) [2009/01/22 23:26:18] @ Log started by Willikins [2009/01/22 23:26:18] @ billie joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 23:38:37] @ Log closed by Willikins (idle since Thu Jan 22 23:26:18 +0000 2009) [2009/01/22 23:51:56] @ Log started by Willikins [2009/01/22 23:51:56] @ Quit: billie: Remote closed the connection [2009/01/22 23:54:15] @ Log closed by Willikins (idle since Thu Jan 22 23:51:56 +0000 2009) [2009/01/22 23:54:15] @ Log started by Willikins [2009/01/22 23:54:15] @ Quit: mpagano: Remote closed the connection [2009/01/22 23:54:32] @ mpagano joined channel #gentoo-council [2009/01/22 23:57:29] @ Log closed by Willikins (idle since Thu Jan 22 23:54:32 +0000 2009)