This week ========= http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20080508-summary.txt What was the council's role in the recent enforced retirement of 3 developers? ------------------------------------------------------------------ The council received numerous complaints, agreed that the devrel lead could take action and discussed the problems with her. The council did not "force" her to claim its actions were hers. I wrote the above statement, so I don't have anything more to add unless there's additional questions. Why does the council permit such actions in apparent violation of Gentoo's policy of openness? ----------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/#doc_chap2 says this: "Every aspect of Gentoo is and remains open. Gentoo does not benefit from hiding any of its development processes (whether it is source code or documentation, decisions or discussions, coordination or management)." Chris (wolf) noted that it does specifically refer to development process. Devrel's current process document also makes specific note of the lack of transparency, and disciplinary actions have historically been discussed in a closed environment, in part because of the potential harmful effects of the discussions if action is not taken. It looks like creative license was taken with http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/contract.xml to turn it into http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/#doc_chap2. The foundation document was not written by the council and conflicts with what's written in the social contract. The social contract says: "We will not hide problems ... Exceptions are made when we receive security-related or developer relations information" What is the council's role in an appeal? ---------------------------------------- How should we proceed with the current appeals? If the council is directly involved in disciplinary action, Ferris requests that we amend GLEP 39 to explain how the council handles appeals and whether the council can take direct disciplinary action. I'm not sure that doing the appeals during a live meeting is appropriate or the best way to go. I think that doing this on the alias or a bug will promote ongoing and deeper thought more than trying to do this in a time-pressured manner where we'll probably be getting hassled by everyone appealing in addition to numerous other "concerned people." We should ask in advance for an email from the appealer, and then we can consider the appeal and release a decision in 1 week.